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Income In Retirement

From pension plans to annuities, there's a lot to know about how to maximize your income in retirement. Join Kiplinger expert Kim Lankford for a retirement income Q&A on Thursday, November 14, from 1-2 p.m. ET.

  • Hi Kim! thanks for joining us. Do you think you could start out by just giving us a rundown on what options are out there for retirees, such as annuities?
  • There are a lot of options for retirement income, and annuities are the only way to guarantee that you won't outlive your retirement income. Traditionally, there have been immediate annuities -- where you give an insurance company a lump sum and it gives you a check every month or year for the rest of your life, no matter how long you live. But there are now many other options that guarantee lifetime income, too, such as variable annuities with lifetime benefits, which let you invest in mutual fund-like accounts and let you withdraw a certain amount of money every year for life, and the newer deferred-income annuities, where you invest a lump sum now, say at age 65, and the insurer promises to pay you a certain amount each year for life, starting when you're older, say in your 70s or 80s. Since you aren't getting the payouts until later, you'll receive much more each year than you would with an immediate annuity. So there are many lifetime income options for different needs.
  • What are the fees of annuities.
  • Why do they charge so much for these things
  • That's a great question, and it depends on the type of annuity you get. With immediate annuities, the fees are embedded -- so when the insurer calculates the guaranteed payout, it's factored into the amount it promises. You can find a surprisingly large range of payout amounts for immediate annuities from company to company because of the fees and other assumptions that go into the payout calculation. Variable annuities show the fees separately. Some basic annuities have fees of less than 1.5% per year, but when you add on the lifetime payout guarantees, the fees can be 3% per year or more, depending on the company. Those lifetime guarantees boost the fees because the insurer is taking on more risk if your investments lose money. But several lower-cost insurers have entered the business and offer a version of variable annuities with lifetime guarantees with fees of about 1.5% to 2%. Their guarantees aren't always as robust as some of the other insurers, but it's a way to get a lifetime income guarantee without having to pay as much as people traditionally had to.
  • Hi Kim, It seems like the commission and expenses of an annuity are very high. Are they really a good deal for us retirees? How long do you have to live to make an annuity a worthwhile investment?
  • That also depends on the type of annuity you get. Now that there are so many different annuity options, it's important to shop around and make sure you compare fees and also understand how the guarantees work. Many insurers that offered variable annuities with lifetime income guarantees several years ago had to raise rates for new annuities because they had taken on so much risk, especially after the market downturn in 2008. Their newer versions of the annuities tend to have higher fees, smaller guarantees, and fewer investment choices (many now require you to invest in a balanced portfolio, rather than riskier funds). If you have an older annuity with lower fees and better guarantees, it's usually a very good idea to keep it. But people who are buying these annuities today may want to scale back the amount of money they invest in the annuities. Rather than investing a certain portion of your retirement savings, I usually recommend that people work backwards to calculate how much to invest: Add up your essential expenses in retirement, subtract your sources of guaranteed income (such as Social Security and any pension) and only get an annuity to provide enough income to fill in that gap. When you know you have guaranteed income for that amount of money, then you can invest the rest of your savings in other investments that may not have these fees.
  • At 57, what is a better option, pension or lump sum?
  • That is such a timely question, and the answer can vary a lot depending on the offer, your life expectancy, other investments, and other factors. My colleague Eleanor Laise wrote a great article for Kiplinger's Retirement Report that goes into detail about the calculations to do to help you assess a lump sum offer:
  • My current mutual funds have performed well and are considered good funds to whomever I've asked to look at they had a sales charge have higher expense ratios than no load companies. However some of the readings I've been picking up say that no load companies and index funds (that have lower fees are the way to go) What is the right thing considering my current funds (although expensive) also do ok in down markets? Some insight would be helpful.
  • JSMCO, Sue and rayoxbill -- you guys are on deck!
  • Kim, Why do you seem to be so down on Indexed Annuities? Many offer the same if not sometimes even stronger Income Guarantees as Variable Annuities do, while also protecting the cash value from loss. Of course you don't get all the upside of the market, but you get none of the downside. This seems like it can be a reasonable trade-off for retirees who want income and less worries about market fluctuations.
  • After a sale of a business (and after paying commission and taxes) what would be the best investment for the balance of the money ie. $1mil. We would want to pull out the interest immediately for monthly income for 9 years (ss kicks in). We do not want to touch principal.
  • variable annuity with GLWB vs. index vs. hybrid- confused
  • Hi Rayoxbill, thanks for your question. I'm not totally sure about the three choices you're referring to -- are you referring to a variable annuity with guaranteed living withdrawal benefits, vs. an index annuity vs. an index annuity with living benefits? If so, then the decision depends on how much income the annuity promises when you will start to need the money, how the potential upside is calculated, and how much it costs for the guarantee. The variable annuities with the withdrawal benefits let you invest in fund-like accounts and promise that you can withdraw at least a certain amount each year for life, even if your investments lose money. The index annuities credit interest to your account by using a calculation based on the performance of a particular index, crediting you a portion of the S&P 500's performance, for example, or at least a minimum guarantee. And I believe the hybrids you're referring to are index annuities that give you guaranteed lifetime withdrawal benefits -- letting you withdraw a certain amount from your account every year for life, no matter how long you live.
  • Here's a piece from last year about variable annuities without the guesswork, perhaps some might find this helpful:
  • Hi Rozario. Thanks for your question. It's been quite a while since I've looked into these funds. They can help you manage your withdrawals in retirement, but the big difference from annuities is that they don't offer guaranteed income for life -- so it is important to have some other money available in case you live longer than you had expected when you bought the fund. Here's an article we wrote a while back with more information about these funds:
  • We have time for one last question!
  • Thanks for your question, Bob. Morningstar can be a great source of information about stocks and funds -- we just recommended the $195 premium service as a good paid site in our most recent issue. I'd also recommend comparing your funds to the ones we recommend in our Kiplinger's 25 to see how they stack up -- That Kip 25 Special Report also includes a lot of great information about how to assess funds. Hope it helps!
  • And, that's a wrap! Thank you to everyone who asked questions and a big thank you to Kim for fielding questions today.
  • Thanks for all of your great questions! It was good to hear from you, and gave me a lot of great ideas for future articles and columns, too!

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